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Oct 21st, 2002 at 2:33pm
 
‘COMES A TIME’

There I was cleaning up my flat and throwing out everything that wasn’t absolutely necessary so I could travel light on the next move to I don’t know where when I came across an article I had saved from several years ago. Written by Ray Holingsworth and titled ‘Crossroads’ the article summed up the frustration and torment often felt by outdoor instructors that have been around the game too long. Ray put into words what many of us constantly feel but rarely say for fear of being perceived as weak, negative or even a traitor to the outdoor education cause. The article covered most of the issues, heavy workloads, long periods’ away, poor pay and conditions, the constant personal and financial demands of gaining and maintaining qualifications and the seasonality of employment. Due to these issues Ray had come to a crossroad where a decision needed to be made, stay or get out? There comes a time when all of us in outdoor education will have to make that decision, lack of finances, health, transient lifestyle, a change in philosophy/ideology or just plain had enough you will at some time be faced with having to make that decision. Look around, how many older people (over age 35) do you see working full time or sessional in the field? Next to none, why, because they have all come to that crossroad where they made the decision to get out. They tallied up the issues, weighed up the pros and cons and got out. But now we have more issues to add to the tally, more than 100 graduates every year (in Victoria alone) from some kind of outdoor education course competing for what little work there is. The average “life span” of an outdoor instructor is three years, I wonder why that is? Insurance premiums going through the roof which is putting hundreds of adventure recreation companies out of work. Widespread litigation and liability laws and actions which are nothing short of absurd if not insane and the slow but imminent demise of industry bodies and qualifications due to the National Training Competencies. What’s wrong with the National Training Competencies you ask? It really depends who is implementing them and how. Besides poor funding and resources, ambiguous curriculum, insular training and assessment, limited implementation hours and lack of instructional integrity there is also the compounding effects of shady managerial practices by administrative staff who have little if any experience or qualifications in outdoor education. All of this amounts to an extremely poor attempt at developing professionals for our industry. I look back over Ray’s ‘Crossroads’ article from six years ago and see that nothing has changed, in fact they are getting worse. I can even see a similarity between loggers and the forests, outdoor educators and the outdoor industry. We keep using and abusing our natural environment to sustain our own employment but we try and justify this by self righteously proclaiming that it’s about environmental awareness, minimal impact, personal development and challenge. When was the last time you worked on a program that had the time, appropriate resources, professional and educationally effective ratios and flexibility to achieve objective and comprehensive outcomes that are consistent with our self righteous claims? I would suggest that keeping to the logistics of group rotations, vehicle movements, equipment transfers and arrival and departure times were the only real objectives and focus. So where does that leave us? I know where it leaves me, comes a time when you have to make a decision to stay or get out and I’m getting out. I can no longer justify the imbalance between what we claim we are doing and what my beliefs and philosophies about outdoor education really are. Like most other industries outdoor education is becoming “bogging down” in its own insular politics and views that are generated by short sited administrators bent on empire building. I no longer see the openness, inspiration, energy or integrity that once made this an exciting and innovative industry to work in. So good luck outdoor ed. cause you’re gunna need it.
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Reply #1 - Oct 21st, 2002 at 6:36pm
 
Roll Eyes

Sounds like your time came a while ago
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Reply #2 - Oct 22nd, 2002 at 8:20am
 
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Sounds like your time came a while ago
Yes you're right, for some reason I just didn't see it. I hope you don't make the same mistake "over 35"!  Angry
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Reply #3 - Oct 22nd, 2002 at 8:57am
 
Hello Johnsy,

Obviously you are someone with a great wealth of experience in outdoor ed and obviously the field will be poorer for your leaving.  In an ideal world what would you do or suggest be done to turn the situation around for the better?

PS Good luck in whichever direction you head from here!

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Reply #4 - Oct 22nd, 2002 at 12:39pm
 
Hi Johnsy
I posted our message before i read your article.  You are sooo right. You can lose hope very quickly, so I can empathise with you.  But I don't believe giving up is the way to go, for all those out there who love what they do I believe it is time to fight for it.  Outdoor adventure is the way of the future as you said Insurance is killing alot of industries, so companies are looking for people to train their people and take the liability off of them, so if we can all get it together, form some sort of Association/Forum that has reasonable membership fees we could challenge those who seem to control us (governments, insurance companies) and also get the proper recognition and catorgorisations formed.
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Reply #5 - Oct 22nd, 2002 at 9:27pm
 
Hi Evan and thank you for your best wishes. It would take more than the available room on this discussion board to suggest what should be done and how. But I have spent over 18 years (most of it very enjoyable)  in O/D Ed while at the same time experiencing some very ugly moments mostly due to the reasons outlined in my article. Idealy in point form we could start on these;
Stop being so bloody parochial
Establish proper standards in training, assessment & accreditation that are NATIONALLY the same.
Stop all the in-fighting & bitching
Start acting like we are professionals
Establish an National accident data base to determine who causes the most accidents ie. staff that are qualified or unqualified, schools or clubs/groups and charge insurance accordingly.
etc. etc. etc.
Too much to list here.
Read the papers, look on the WWW watch the news there are countless deaths and accidents in O/D Ed. and adventure tourism that can mostly be avoided with appropriate training, programs and some common sense. But we are being overun by unqualified, overworked and under-resourced bureaucrats that are cutting too many corners and the results speek for themselves. Maybe you hit the nail right on the head when you said "In an ideal world" but why shouldn't O/D Ed. be ideal? Afterall we are not serving coffee or changing tyres, we are dealing with peoples lives!

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Hello Johnsy,

Obviously you are someone with a great wealth of experience in outdoor ed and obviously the field will be poorer for your leaving.  In an ideal world what would you do or suggest be done to turn the situation around for the better?

PS Good luck in whichever direction you head from here!

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Reply #6 - Oct 23rd, 2002 at 10:31am
 
Thanks for your comments Corporate_Commando,
Firstly I didn't loose hope quickly, it took nearly 20 years, and secondly I think the last thing we need is another forum. There has been endless forums and meeting and groups formed and authorities and so on but I do not see too many problems being solved I just see more and more parochialism, cronyism and as I mentioned empire building. My feelings are that this is a result of O/D Ed becoming fashionable. As soon as something becomes fashionable it attracts a particular following that tends to be a little too self-serving. However, the beauty of fashionability is that it will eventually become unfashionable, hopefully resulting in O/D Ed eventually finding a level of sanity and reality that seems to have escaped it for now.
Cheers,
Johnsy   Smiley
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I posted our message before i read your article.  You are sooo right. You can lose hope very quickly, so I can empathise with you.  But I don't believe giving up is the way to go, for all those out there who love what they do I believe it is time to fight for it.  Outdoor adventure is the way of the future as you said Insurance is killing alot of industries, so companies are looking for people to train their people and take the liability off of them, so if we can all get it together, form some sort of Association/Forum that has reasonable membership fees we could challenge those who seem to control us (governments, insurance companies) and also get the proper recognition and catorgorisations formed.
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Reply #7 - Oct 29th, 2002 at 5:21pm
 
So Johnsy what do you think is an appropriate forum to start to make the changes?  Obviously the operators won't change until they are forced to by costs or regulation or both?  Should there be some sort of government regulated award system for outdoor workers like there are for other industries?  (Does one exist already?) Should there be an Outdoor Educators Association set up like some sort of Union to protect the rights of outdoor ed. staff?  I thinkthis might be the best option, from what I have heard the working conditions experienced by a lot of people is akin to the Industrial Revolution. 

Who do you think are the worst employers in this industry and why?  Maybe some companies need to be shamed into treating their staff better and toeing the line?  What do you reckon?
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Reply #8 - Nov 3rd, 2002 at 11:00am
 
Lips SealedIt will be a brave act to name and highlight those exploiters Angry of the "do it for the love"  brigade employment. 
but it needs to be done, so does a regulation body of some sort. Grin
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Reply #9 - Nov 3rd, 2002 at 11:42am
 
There is no way I'm going to start the first public list of company shame and it wouldn't make any difference if they were shamed anyway. I have seen a number of companies shamed beyond comprehension professionally and legally and they are still operating today! There are so many young, naive, eager novices standing in line to work for any O/Door company for any price that it would be an ineffectual exercise. That’s why the average professional “life span” of an O/D Ed. instructor is only three years, all those eager young novices working their little buts off nearly 7 days a week thinking they’re having a fantastic time (and most are). Until they wake up after three years and find they still have no money, no social life, a broken down 1981 Subaru wagon and no real career prospects, just more of the same. That’s when they go back to Uni to finish their study and/or back to “mainstream reality”. In many ways that suits O/Door Ed employers as there is a constant supply of fresh eager workers that will do whatever is necessary to get that O/Door Ed. job. What’s the answer then? There is no simple or single answer nor I am going to pretend to have it either, but like many others even before me I know when to walk away. I came over to O/Door Ed. 20 years ago because I found “mainstream reality” dysfunctional, I’m going back to “mainstream” now because I find O/Door Ed. has become dysfunctional. It’s up to you, the ones still in it, the ones still full of “piss and vinegar” to work out what needs to be done and how to do it. Don’t let the side down!
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So Johnsy what do you think is an appropriate forum to start to make the changes?  Obviously the operators won't change until they are forced to by costs or regulation or both?  Should there be some sort of government regulated award system for outdoor workers like there are for other industries?  (Does one exist already?) Should there be an Outdoor Educators Association set up like some sort of Union to protect the rights of outdoor ed. staff?  I thinkthis might be the best option, from what I have heard the working conditions experienced by a lot of people is akin to the Industrial Revolution.  

Who do you think are the worst employers in this industry and why?  Maybe some companies need to be shamed into treating their staff better and toeing the line?  What do you reckon?
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Reply #10 - Nov 4th, 2002 at 10:02am
 
Once again Johnsy, thanks for the insights.  Okay, rather than playing the shame game how about playing the praise game? 

Are there any Outdoor Ed. or Guiding employers (past or present) who do look after their staff well? 

Who are they and what do they do? Lets focus on the positives and try to promote them!

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I must be a successful outdoor person - I won a 1983 Subie that is still going! 8)
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Reply #12 - Nov 7th, 2002 at 10:10pm
 
If you are in O/Door Ed that would be the only way you could afford a car, by winning it! And I don't think winning one necessarily says anything about your success in O/door Ed "subie do"  Grin
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Reply #13 - Nov 11th, 2002 at 1:49pm
 
Some employers have as their mission statement that staff will work for the love it and that financial reward is not the primary focus.  I think a major player in the eildon area has something very similar to this.  Maybe the tafe sector needs to educate people into the pitfalls of a life in this could be wonderful career path.  you already do outline the highlights dont you swinburneyououtoeg.  exploitation of young people for financial reward is a  Cry ???
the student union may need to educate students of their rights for when they enter the work force.
did i say union! oh Im sorry that is a dirty word. 
by for now
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Reply #14 - Nov 15th, 2002 at 9:12pm
 
You are absolutely right "Imnotbitter". I just finished reading an internal document from the said player that states a drop/reduction in salary is a sacrifice one makes to live your beliefs and philosophies! Holly crap aren't we already sacrificing enough without doing it for peanuts as well? You know what they say about paying peanuts? In addition, I spent the last couple of years coordinating a TAFE course in O/D Ed. and I spent a lot of time cautioning and informing my students of the common pitfalls of the outdoor Industry. Because of this many of them have gone in with their eyes open but were still burnt, burnt through mismanagement and (from some of the stories they have told me) burnt through abuse, a complete lack of organisation and professionalism. Some of them are already walking away from the industry, what a tragedy when I saw so much talent and commitment from them. This is what I find most disturbing. The main philosophy of O/D Ed. is about personal development, reward and meaningful challenges that helps develop participants to be better and more constructive community members while at the same time staff are being used, abused and discarded like they don’t even matter. I find this disparity incredibly hypocritical, a hypocrisy that has gone on too long and is too apparent to disregard any longer. But what are those of you who are still in the industry going to do about it??????????????

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Some employers have as their mission statement that staff will work for the love it and that financial reward is not the primary focus.  I think a major player in the eildon area has something very similar to this.  Maybe the tafe sector needs to educate people into the pitfalls of a life in this could be wonderful career path.  you already do outline the highlights dont you swinburneyououtoeg.  exploitation of young people for financial reward is a  Cry ???
the student union may need to educate students of their rights for when they enter the work force.
did i say union! oh Im sorry that is a dirty word.  
by for now
Imnotbitter 8)
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